Difference between revisions of "Real Time Remote Editing with Avid"
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* some report lag using this method <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460</ref> | * some report lag using this method <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460</ref> | ||
* others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460</ref> | * others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460</ref> | ||
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| + | = Webcam video -- using existing Avid hardware = | ||
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| + | == Avid DNxIP [https://annexpro.com/product/avid-artist-dnxip $4499 CAD] == | ||
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| + | * "send/stream content to any destination—anywhere" <ref>https://www.avid.com/products/avid-artist-io/features</ref> | ||
== Avid DNxID [https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartID=&sku=AR-EP-DNID-00&cclcl=en_CA $999 US] (used for Avid Media Composer) == | == Avid DNxID [https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartID=&sku=AR-EP-DNID-00&cclcl=en_CA $999 US] (used for Avid Media Composer) == | ||
* "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460</ref> | * "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460</ref> | ||
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| + | = Webcam video -- using additional non-Avid hardware = | ||
== BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] == | == BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] == | ||
Revision as of 22:04, 5 August 2020
Contents
Webcam video -- no hardware (via chat apps like Zoom)
- advantage: affordable
- disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video
Zoom settings
stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI
- see: https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/How_To/stream-MC-video-NDI
- within Avid version 2018.7 and higher you can send video to stream (button on timeline)
- need NDI software (free)
- can stream via Zoom or Skype and other NDI compatible chat
- "Open IO NDI is not available if you have Nitris DX or Mojo DX video hardware. You have to disable that hardware in order to access Open IO NDI" [1]
- some report lag using this method [4]
- others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." [5]
Webcam video -- using existing Avid hardware
Avid DNxIP $4499 CAD
- "send/stream content to any destination—anywhere" [6]
Avid DNxID $999 US (used for Avid Media Composer)
- "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" [7]
Webcam video -- using additional non-Avid hardware
BlackMagic Web Presenter $600 US
- see: https://sofimarshall.com/real-time-remote-editing/
- Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat
- audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower)
Blackmagic ATEM Mini $435 CAD
- see: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/ca/products/atemmini
- similar to Web Presenter in setup but is HDMI input only (no SDI)
- "USB webcam output of ATEM Mini connects to any computer and looks just like a built in webcam"
AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) $209 US
- AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 is fed video (720p/23.976 works, 1080p/23.976 does not) via HDMI from Avid sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be transmitted via Zoom or FaceTime or Skype
- HDMI loops through the device back to client monitor
- device has microphone input; audio from Avid HDMI combines with that in web-cam signal
- Avid audio sounded bad (tinny) in tests
- see: http://storage.avermedia.com/web_release_www/GC510/GC510_Datasheet_20170218.pdf
Magewell HDMI to USB 3.0 Dongle $402.42 CAD
- HDMI in, web-cam out [8]
- because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor
- Zoom will detect HDMI source from these HDMI devices:
- Magewell USB-HDMI $402.42 CAD
- Inogeni 4k2USB3 (max res 1080p) $650.69 CAD
- Logitech Screen Share $396.99
- requires Zoom Rooms $49 US/month
- "Zoom Rooms a software-based room system that runs on a Mac or Windows computer, and uses an iPad, Android or Windows tablet as the room controller" [9]
Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage)
- advantage: compatible with 23.98 video
- disadvantage: higher priced encoders
Sohonet Clearview Flex $2000 US/month
Evercast $1000 US/month
- see: https://www.evercast.us/
- "kept dropping out at anything below 5mbps upload speed" [10]
Makito from Haivision (price not listed)
- see: https://doc.haivision.com/MakitoXEnc2.3
- encoding box at editor's end and decoding box at producer's end connected to monitor
- one-to-one video transmission
- SDI input and ethernet port on editor's end
- HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end
- configured via IP web interface
EPS Streaming Server (price unknown)
- see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial
- SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page.
References
- ↑ http://resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/attach/WhatsNew_MediaComposer_v18.7.pdf
- ↑ https://www.newtek.com/blog/tips/newtek-ndi-in-avid-media-composer/
- ↑ https://community.avid.com/forums/p/199493/894361.aspx#894361
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460
- ↑ https://www.avid.com/products/avid-artist-io/features
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460
- ↑ https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207483343-Getting-started-with-Zoom-Rooms
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159386147704460
