Difference between revisions of "Real Time Remote Editing with Avid"
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* advantage: affordable | * advantage: affordable | ||
* disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video | * disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video | ||
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+ | == stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI == | ||
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+ | * see: https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/How_To/stream-MC-video-NDI | ||
+ | * within Avid version 2018.7 and higher you can send video to stream (button on timeline) | ||
+ | * need [https://ndi.tv/tools/#download-tools NDI software] (free) | ||
+ | * can stream via Zoom or Skype and other NDI compatible chat | ||
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+ | == screen share via Zoom (no hardware) == | ||
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+ | * some report lag using this method <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460</ref> | ||
+ | * others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460</ref> | ||
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+ | == Avid DNxID [https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartID=&sku=AR-EP-DNID-00&cclcl=en_CA $999 US] (used for Avid Media Composer) == | ||
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+ | * "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460</ref> | ||
== BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] == | == BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] == | ||
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* Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat | * Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat | ||
* audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower) | * audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower) | ||
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+ | == Blackmagic ATEM Mini [https://www.avshop.ca/video/switchers/blackmagic-design-atem-mini-hdmi-switcher-streamer $435 CAD] == | ||
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+ | * see: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/ca/products/atemmini | ||
+ | * similar to Web Presenter in setup but is HDMI input only (no SDI) | ||
+ | ** "USB webcam output of ATEM Mini connects to any computer and looks just like a built in webcam" | ||
== AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) [https://amzn.to/337n5Jt $209 US] == | == AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) [https://amzn.to/337n5Jt $209 US] == | ||
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* HDMI in, web-cam out <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460</ref> | * HDMI in, web-cam out <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460</ref> | ||
* because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor | * because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor | ||
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+ | = [https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201504265-Wired-HDMI-Screen-Share-via-Capture-Device HDMI Share via Zoom Rooms] $49 US/month + hardware = | ||
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+ | * Zoom will detect HDMI source from these HDMI devices: | ||
+ | ** Magewell USB-HDMI [https://amzn.to/2P79fOP $402.42 CAD] | ||
+ | ** Inogeni 4k2USB3 (max res 1080p) [https://amzn.to/39No96p $650.69 CAD] | ||
+ | ** Logitech Screen Share [https://amzn.to/33fVRQM $396.99] | ||
+ | * requires Zoom Rooms $49 US/month | ||
+ | ** "Zoom Rooms a software-based room system that runs on a Mac or Windows computer, and uses an iPad, Android or Windows tablet as the room controller" <ref>https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207483343-Getting-started-with-Zoom-Rooms</ref> | ||
= Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage) = | = Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage) = | ||
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* see: https://www.evercast.us/ | * see: https://www.evercast.us/ | ||
− | + | * "kept dropping out at anything below 5mbps upload speed" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159386147704460</ref> | |
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== Makito from Haivision (price not listed) == | == Makito from Haivision (price not listed) == | ||
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* HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end | * HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end | ||
* configured via IP web interface | * configured via IP web interface | ||
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+ | == EPS Streaming Server (price unknown) == | ||
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+ | * see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial | ||
+ | * SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page. | ||
= References = | = References = |
Revision as of 19:51, 1 August 2020
Contents
- 1 Webcam video (via chat apps like Zoom)
- 1.1 stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI
- 1.2 screen share via Zoom (no hardware)
- 1.3 Avid DNxID $999 US (used for Avid Media Composer)
- 1.4 BlackMagic Web Presenter $600 US
- 1.5 Blackmagic ATEM Mini $435 CAD
- 1.6 AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) $209 US
- 1.7 Magewell HDMI to USB 3.0 Dongle $402.42 CAD
- 2 HDMI Share via Zoom Rooms $49 US/month + hardware
- 3 Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage)
- 4 References
Webcam video (via chat apps like Zoom)
- advantage: affordable
- disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video
stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI
- see: https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/How_To/stream-MC-video-NDI
- within Avid version 2018.7 and higher you can send video to stream (button on timeline)
- need NDI software (free)
- can stream via Zoom or Skype and other NDI compatible chat
- some report lag using this method [1]
- others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." [2]
Avid DNxID $999 US (used for Avid Media Composer)
- "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" [3]
BlackMagic Web Presenter $600 US
- see: https://sofimarshall.com/real-time-remote-editing/
- Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat
- audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower)
Blackmagic ATEM Mini $435 CAD
- see: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/ca/products/atemmini
- similar to Web Presenter in setup but is HDMI input only (no SDI)
- "USB webcam output of ATEM Mini connects to any computer and looks just like a built in webcam"
AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) $209 US
- AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 is fed video (720p/23.976 works, 1080p/23.976 does not) via HDMI from Avid sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be transmitted via Zoom or FaceTime or Skype
- HDMI loops through the device back to client monitor
- device has microphone input; audio from Avid HDMI combines with that in web-cam signal
- Avid audio sounded bad (tinny) in tests
- see: http://storage.avermedia.com/web_release_www/GC510/GC510_Datasheet_20170218.pdf
Magewell HDMI to USB 3.0 Dongle $402.42 CAD
- HDMI in, web-cam out [4]
- because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor
- Zoom will detect HDMI source from these HDMI devices:
- Magewell USB-HDMI $402.42 CAD
- Inogeni 4k2USB3 (max res 1080p) $650.69 CAD
- Logitech Screen Share $396.99
- requires Zoom Rooms $49 US/month
- "Zoom Rooms a software-based room system that runs on a Mac or Windows computer, and uses an iPad, Android or Windows tablet as the room controller" [5]
Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage)
- advantage: compatible with 23.98 video
- disadvantage: higher priced encoders
Sohonet Clearview Flex $2000 US/month
Evercast $1000 US/month
- see: https://www.evercast.us/
- "kept dropping out at anything below 5mbps upload speed" [6]
Makito from Haivision (price not listed)
- see: https://doc.haivision.com/MakitoXEnc2.3
- encoding box at editor's end and decoding box at producer's end connected to monitor
- one-to-one video transmission
- SDI input and ethernet port on editor's end
- HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end
- configured via IP web interface
EPS Streaming Server (price unknown)
- see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial
- SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page.
References
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460
- ↑ https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207483343-Getting-started-with-Zoom-Rooms
- ↑ https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159386147704460