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* advantage: affordable
 
* advantage: affordable
 
* disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video
 
* disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video
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== stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI ==
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* see: https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/How_To/stream-MC-video-NDI
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* within Avid version 2018.7 and higher you can send video to stream (button on timeline)
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* need [https://ndi.tv/tools/#download-tools NDI software] (free)
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* can stream via Zoom or Skype and other NDI compatible chat
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== screen share via Zoom (no hardware) ==
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* some report lag using this method <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159383990429460</ref>
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* others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159384042429460</ref>
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== Avid DNxID [https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductDetails?viewState=DetailView&cartID=&sku=AR-EP-DNID-00&cclcl=en_CA $999 US] (used for Avid Media Composer) ==
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* "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460&reply_comment_id=10159386515639460</ref>
  
 
== BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] ==
 
== BlackMagic Web Presenter [https://amzn.to/2BHnLdd $600 US] ==
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* Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat
 
* Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat
 
* audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower)
 
* audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower)
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== Blackmagic ATEM Mini [https://www.avshop.ca/video/switchers/blackmagic-design-atem-mini-hdmi-switcher-streamer $435 CAD] ==
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* see: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/ca/products/atemmini
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* similar to Web Presenter in setup but is HDMI input only (no SDI)
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** "USB webcam output of ATEM Mini connects to any computer and looks just like a built in webcam"
  
 
== AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) [https://amzn.to/337n5Jt $209 US] ==
 
== AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) [https://amzn.to/337n5Jt $209 US] ==
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* HDMI in, web-cam out <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460</ref>
 
* HDMI in, web-cam out <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159383980714460</ref>
 
* because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor
 
* because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor
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= [https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201504265-Wired-HDMI-Screen-Share-via-Capture-Device HDMI Share via Zoom Rooms] $49 US/month + hardware =
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* Zoom will detect HDMI source from these HDMI devices:
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** Magewell USB-HDMI [https://amzn.to/2P79fOP $402.42 CAD]
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** Inogeni 4k2USB3 (max res 1080p) [https://amzn.to/39No96p $650.69 CAD]
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** Logitech Screen Share [https://amzn.to/33fVRQM $396.99]
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* requires Zoom Rooms $49 US/month
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** "Zoom Rooms a software-based room system that runs on a Mac or Windows computer, and uses an iPad, Android or Windows tablet as the room controller" <ref>https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207483343-Getting-started-with-Zoom-Rooms</ref>
  
 
= Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage) =
 
= Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage) =
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* see: https://www.evercast.us/
 
* see: https://www.evercast.us/
 
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* "kept dropping out at anything below 5mbps upload speed" <ref>https://www.facebook.com/groups/mediacomposer/?post_id=10159383787994460&comment_id=10159386147704460</ref>
== EPS Streaming Server (price unknown) ==
 
 
 
* see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial
 
* SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page.
 
  
 
== Makito from Haivision (price not listed) ==
 
== Makito from Haivision (price not listed) ==
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* HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end
 
* HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end
 
* configured via IP web interface
 
* configured via IP web interface
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== EPS Streaming Server (price unknown) ==
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* see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial
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* SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page.
  
 
= References =
 
= References =

Revision as of 19:51, 1 August 2020

Webcam video (via chat apps like Zoom)

  • advantage: affordable
  • disadvantage: 30 fps chat apps not optimized for 23.98 fps video

stream direct from Avid Media Composer using NDI

screen share via Zoom (no hardware)

  • some report lag using this method [1]
  • others not: "Screen Sharing a video source in Zoom creates a lag of about 500ms. I think that is quite reasonable." [2]

Avid DNxID $999 US (used for Avid Media Composer)

  • "use the output from the DNxID and run it in the input from the DNxID, then you will see the picture in Zoom" [3]

BlackMagic Web Presenter $600 US

  • see: https://sofimarshall.com/real-time-remote-editing/
  • Blackmagic Web Presenter is fed video (and audio) from Avid via HDMI or SDI and sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be shared on Zoom chat
  • audio from chat microphone and audio from Avid are combined using $99 Loopback software (sounds similar to SoundFlower)

Blackmagic ATEM Mini $435 CAD

AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 (GC510) $209 US

  • AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 is fed video (720p/23.976 works, 1080p/23.976 does not) via HDMI from Avid sends back a web-cam compatible signal via USB that can be transmitted via Zoom or FaceTime or Skype
  • HDMI loops through the device back to client monitor
  • device has microphone input; audio from Avid HDMI combines with that in web-cam signal
  • Avid audio sounded bad (tinny) in tests
  • see: http://storage.avermedia.com/web_release_www/GC510/GC510_Datasheet_20170218.pdf

Magewell HDMI to USB 3.0 Dongle $402.42 CAD

  • HDMI in, web-cam out [4]
  • because there is no loop-through, an HDMI splitter would be needed if you needed to send HDMI to your monitor

HDMI Share via Zoom Rooms $49 US/month + hardware

  • Zoom will detect HDMI source from these HDMI devices:
  • requires Zoom Rooms $49 US/month
    • "Zoom Rooms a software-based room system that runs on a Mac or Windows computer, and uses an iPad, Android or Windows tablet as the room controller" [5]

Direct video (to remote client monitor or webpage)

  • advantage: compatible with 23.98 video
  • disadvantage: higher priced encoders

Sohonet Clearview Flex $2000 US/month

Evercast $1000 US/month

Makito from Haivision (price not listed)

  • see: https://doc.haivision.com/MakitoXEnc2.3
  • encoding box at editor's end and decoding box at producer's end connected to monitor
  • one-to-one video transmission
  • SDI input and ethernet port on editor's end
  • HDMI output and ethernet port on producer's end
  • configured via IP web interface

EPS Streaming Server (price unknown)

  • see: https://www.epscineworks.com/editorial
  • SDI video from Avid sent to capture card on 2010 Mac Pro running Windows 7 Pro and Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.2 streaming to EPS server that host to EPS password protected web page.

References